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Question about Chapter 184

So a while ago there was a discussion about where Allen's name came from. Mana obviously gave him his last name and someone wondered if he had also given him the name Allen. I think the general consensus was that Allen was too old when he and Mana met to not already have a name and that he probably wouldn't have taken well to someone just up and replacing his name.

And then this chapter happened and I am all kinds of confused all over again. What. Was the deal. With that dream? o.O

Why was Mana saying "Allen", in quotation marks? And then the disappearing name? What. The hell.

*Is massively bewildered and alarmed*

So - because of the previous discussion - my first thought was "well, maybe Allen actually answered to brat or something at the circus" and now as I'm writing this another (possibly more reasonable, and vastly more alarming) option came to mind - was Mana replacing Allen's with the Fourteenth's perhaps?

Sorry if this was evident to everyone. I am still not sure either way. Thoughts?

Also, did anyone notice that when Allen was pinned to the wall/thing the blood splashed behind him shaped wings?

Allen's face when he realized he was in a dream = hilarious

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This is what I think about Allen's name.

I think when Mana started to say "Allen" and then the name disappearing, means that the 14th is taking over Allen slowly and Allen is disappearing. Or something like that. I mean, the 14th took over when Allen woke up.

@#%$ Fourteenth - leave Allen alone!!!!

Ok, that makes sense.

Hey - do you remember chapter...oh god, 36 - when Allen's "cursed" eye evolves - there was a weird-ass freaky skull with a pentacle and a stylized D on it and it went inside Allen's head? Does that maybe mean that Allen has both Mana AND the Fourteenth inside him?

Hmm...I'm not sure. But then what would the D stand for? ~~the title?~~ But that's a plausible thing. Oh god...hopefully Hoshino-sensei ties all the puzzle in soon.

At the same time - didn't Allen's scar react when he was playing the piano in the Ark? Why would the scar/Mana react to the Fourteenth's song? And if that skull thing is actually the Fourteenth (if it's not Mana that's the only other thing I can think it would be) why would Mana cursing Allen result in the Fourteenth seeing through that eye...o.O It has to be Mana...*hopes the Fourteenth's name doesn't start with a D because otherwise I just don't know what to think*

D stands for Dead? Then who's the dead gray man? Mana? Allen - because he stands between/blends the white (Innocence) and the black (Noah)? *hopes this is not true*

Allen is kind of gray - he loves Akuma and humans, he's a Noah vessel who wields Innocence...so what else could the D stand for? But the D was on the skull, which is dead...

Aarrrgh, do we know how many arcs are left? Like, are we nearish the end or solidly in the middle of the story?

Won't Mana react when it's his brother? o.O

Hmm...I was thinking of Dead too! So many questions. Didn't Hoshino give us a hint 'bout what the title means? I think I heard about that somewhere...

M-maybe we're in the middle of the story?

I think I read somewhere that it had something to do with Allen...

So what does Dead Gray-Man mean?! And what's with the hyphen? The gray-man has two dead people in his head? *doesn't want to consider the other possibilities...but does anyways* Someone came up with the idea that Allen was an akuma, modified by Cross (it does not help that in the original premise and inspiration for DGM, Zone, featured an Allen look-alike who was an akuma ;_;) So...if it's Dead Gray-Man, and the "dead" isn't referring to Mana and/or the 14th...*does not waaaaaaant* ;_;

I don't think Allen's an Akuma. But what if he were dead in some other way? Or maybe it could be a metaphorical death - ie the Noah takeover. *and of course, all of this assuming that D. stands for Dead*

I hope we're towards the end of the middle - I want answers dammit!

Well I think if it were Dead Gray Man, it would solely be referring to the fourteenth who had indeed died before. That Noah was gray like Allen, since he may have been evil but (I guess) since he loved his brother so much he couldnt imagine destroying humanity (which he must have loved which made him good?) and then he betrayed the Earl. Something along those lines.

But Allen died a long time ago before he even got the crowned clown. He felt death way back when he encountered Tyki as a Noah the first time.

And knowing a bit of Japanese, I could imagine D standing for dead but not necessarily saying the guy is dead. More like having to do with the dead, which Allen does have a lot to do with the dead. He talks to souls.

Oooooo - I like your theories!

Your icon cracks me up every time I see it! It's such a rare face for Allen to make!

I believe he was looking at Kanda when he made this face.

And thank you. I have my own series so I'm always paying a lot of attention to potential plot developments to keep sharp.

Of course he was looking at Kanda :P

Series? Do you write (or draw)?

rofl! of COURSE! :x

I both write and draw since it's a manga. ^.^ It's in English but I may make a Japanese translation someday.. x_X I'm just no good at boy language yet, and the main character is this gruff low class boy.

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eiliem.livejournal.com - 2009-04-13 17:57 (UTC) - Expand

Wait but...Allen *felt* death but he didn't actually *die*...right? :S

Hmm, that's all a matter of opinion. Regardless, I'm assuming it has more to do with Allen's interactions with souls than it does with anyone having to be dead.

True. But you think he actually died then? *had not thought about it that way*

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willowchan.livejournal.com - 2009-04-13 07:06 (UTC) - Expand

Maybe...Just maybe, the D stands for the 14th's real name...?

Hoshino said the title refers to Allen. He's the "grey" in the midst of the black and white (Noah and Exorcists).

That's all she said about the title.

The D is still a mystery as far as information from Hoshino.

Quick, someone go through a dictionary and make a list of all the possibilities.

The only two that jump to mind for me are Dead and Doomed (but I'm morbid like that)

Ugh, I don't really have anything new to add, but when I read the comments and was thinking "Dead gray man" I thought of the Noah because their skin is gray and the 'dead man' could be the 14th who is the cause of the whole entire story/situation with Allen.
I don't know, maybe I'm taking things too literally but I just don't know.
/distress

Oooh, more possibilities...

I always thought that meant Mana would be with allen [in/tied to his curse mark] until Allen died or something. That's what I got out of it anyway. Since in the anime you could hear Mana talking and such.

I have the same thoughts as you. Allen's being, personality are fading away, ceasing to be Allen, so that's why his name is put in quotation. That's how I took it.

I totally agree with you! I've been thinking the same thing, and I am writing an analysis on it right now. *is inspired*

O.O Wow...I don't have that much inspiration to write an analysis. I'd totally write one if I am required to write a paper for analysis for my English paper, but...we don't.

That's usually the case with me too. I just write analysis papers for school, and I really don't like them. But hey, why not use the training I learned in school to write an article analyizing manga for fun. >w< I sound like a dork. XDD

Anyway, I've already posted my analysis right here (http://community.livejournal.com/dgrayman/457073.html#cutid1). =D

Wow...that's cool, I'll check it out once I get home. ^^

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