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[In the current move, Flute has just informed the team that they are to accompany a group of Lanterner assassins to a conference where the Lanterners will attempt to assassinate Jedao. This post is for reactions and plans, both in and out of character.]

Sasha's quiet as the group heads from the Catastrophe Axe back to the Cantata. She wants to have a cup of tea and spend a few hours working her way further into the Axe's grid, but work comes before play, and figuring out how to handle Flute's instructions will be a fuck of a lot of work.

Once everyone's safely on the Cantata and the lock has closed behind them, she starts issuing orders. "Grid, please ask Sulen to meet me in my office in twenty minutes, and inform everyone there will be a team meeting in the common room in one hour. Reshad, I'll want you in the meeting with Sulen."

She pulls her memory stick out of her pocket and gives it to Alaric. "Find Aymad, stick this in the minigrid--not in the main one--and see what you can find out about the watchers in Flute's system in the next hour."

Then she turns to Seyli. "I know you want to yell. Go ahead and do it. You've got twenty minutes." [These are heptarchate minutes, so it's more like ten minutes in our calendar.]
venndaai: (scrywolf)
From: [personal profile] venndaai
"I've accessed all the information we have on this Shuos Jedao, and it certainly seems like his assassination is a worthy goal, although it wouldn't have been my priority."

[Sulen would rather assassinate key Vidona policymakers, but they've guessed the rebellion would rather destroy the heptarchate than reform it and aren't sure what to do about that. They're constitutionally incapable of arguing a position that they don't believe so can't pretend they don't think getting rid of Jedao is the moral decision.]

[OOC, I definitely want to kidnap him, although I'm not sure we're capable of it- but having him turn the tables on us also sounds fun! I'm okay with splitting the party although I'm not sure what we'd be doing on the Cantata while the trainers were interacting with the Lanterners.]
slybrarian: The Incomparable Leonardo de Montreal, Nightmare's Angel (Nightmare Scientist)
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"He does seem an strange choice," Alaric agrees. "I can see how in the short term his death would benefit the Laterners and hurt the heptarchate, but in the long run doesn't his big murder-suicide do a lot of damage to heptarchates forces anyways? Not even that long-run, really. Medium-term at best. Was the war really close to tipping the other way at this point?"

[Trying to capture Jedao seems fun and tricky, and trying to kill him also seems tricky. We did accidentally kidnap-slash-subvert one official, though!]
slybrarian: The Incomparable Leonardo de Montreal, Nightmare's Angel (Nightmare Scientist)
From: [personal profile] slybrarian
Alaric nods. "Or maybe it would benefit a specific faction, either in the heptarchate sense of the word, or a faction of the rebellion. Kill Jedao so that there's a big loss among the Kel now, and maybe in whatever post-heptarchate order they're trying to engineer they'll come out on top."
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[oops Alaric beat me to replying; reposting here.]

Virmad is — possibly visibly; certainly visibly to Sulen — struggling to balance his personal feelings on this matter against his professional — ? when did he start thinking of himself as a professional rebel? — assessment of the situation as a member of the Rebellion.

“To address Alaric’s question,” Virmad interjects, “if the Heptarchate can be defeated, or at least held at bay, by a small client state — which, given the distance any additional forces would have to travel to get here if Jedao and his swarm are removed as factors, seems like a plausible outcome of an assassination — that could both leave it open to external challenges and exacerbate the internal contradictions that let heresies spread in the first place.” The part of him that still thinks like a magistrate is pleased with the phrase “internal contradictions”, borrowed from some borderline heretical Liozh political economist he read years ago.

“On a pragmatic note,” he continues, “I’m not sure I’m convinced that sending multiple assassins is more likely to succeed in the first place than one was. Granted, the Lanterners may not be the only assassins operating at this conference, although they’ll probably be the only ones targeting Jedao, but still — more assassins, especially more assassins with the same target, means more chances of drawing his attention. It’s also possible, as we discussed earlier” — he nods to Sasha — “that this is precisely Quill’s intention. Jedao won the war, if you can call it ‘winning’, while recovering from the effects of a botched shattergun assassination attempt. If they can draw his attention to the assassins and prevent that damage, who knows what he might accomplish while clear-minded? It was always speculated that his actions at Hellspin might have been connected with the aftereffects of the assassination attempt, although there was never any conclusive evidence either way, at least not in public. Even if Quill does want us to succeed, it may be a tactic to galvanize the Heptarchate into committing more forces to this conflict, which while logistically challenging wouldn’t be strictly impossible, and, depending on the aggressiveness of the response, might simply mean an even more efficient and total genocide of the Lanterners. I hope I speak for all of us when I say I wouldn’t want to see that.”

He stops for a moment to breathe and weigh his words before continuing.

“Shuos Jedao” — his heart is pounding in spite of himself — “is dangerous, no doubt. But he’s also an unknown and variable quantity, as my speculations about the implications of his death may have illustrated. I would say it’s between ‘difficult’ and ‘impossible’ to predict the political and calendrical implications of what we’re being asked to do. This assassination plan seems...” He searches for the right word. “...Ill-advised, especially when we don’t trust Quill’s motivations. But doing nothing will attract attention we don’t want from our ‘superiors’ and their other agents here. I wish we had a better sense of Jedao himself, beyond the historical record.” He gestures a little helplessly. “If there were a third way...”

[sorry for this WALL of text and also sorry for being so bad at posting! Virmad has a lot of thoughts and feelings and most of them are that he REALLY doesn't want them to kill Jedao (he wants to meet him, ideally!) but also doesn't want to totally compromise his position in Sasha and Sulen's eyes, so he doesn't feel that he can advocate strongly for anything other than "wait and observe" at the moment, unless someone else suggests something first.

for my part, out of character, I don't trust Quill, but the theory I REALLY WANT to believe is precisely that Hellspin is connected with the shattergun aftereffects, so Quill wants the assassination attempt to fail so that Jedao will still be alive and active when the Liozh heresy begins and can throw his support behind the Liozh. I'd be extremely down for a kidnapping. my biggest goal for this mission, I would say, is to have Virmad and Jedao meet in some capacity.

also yes I did mean to vaguely imply that there's a Liozh political economist who's halfway to inventing Marxism.]
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From: [personal profile] venndaai
Sulen narrows their eyes. "Why would Quill wish for a more aggressive campaign against the Lanterners? Do we suspect them of being an agent of the Heptarchate? Or are we merely remaining open to the possibility?"

"I had simply assumed someone wished to deprive the Heptarchate of this general's apparently legendary strategic abilities for the next..." They check their notes. "Four hundred years. "
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"Which is why," Ione interrupts carefully, because she is all for the gentle intrusion into the planning discussion instead of talking over anyone, and she's still nervous around people she doesn't know very well and please no one resent her for her opinion, good thing the only empath in the room is her, "I think we should just borrow him instead. We would be removing him, but then we could find out why, or maybe why he thought they specifically wanted him dead instead of ..." She's lost the hold of the sentence, but still focused on the point.

"I mean. Could we just. Pretend to kill him? And instead keep him for ourselves, at least until we think we actually need to kill him? I could certainly do fake lethal injection," a little wavy-wiggly hand gesture, "And actually have it be temporarily-arrests-life injection instead. Poison dart that isn't actually fatal sort of thing?"


[I like the kidnapping idea, but Ione is also in favor of kidnapping over assassinating because her training definitely tells her that if someone else wants to kill a guy, she wants to talk to the guy first! So for once my character and I agree.]
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From: [personal profile] hoardingpearls
Reshad has been quiet, thinking, listening. She takes this as her chance to speak. Her mind is in a whirl, without question. Of course it had to be him. Of course this was the pivot point.

"If Quill wanted to make things less stable in the future, she could do worse than to remove Hexarch Mikodez.

"That - and Jedao's legendary mind - incline me to think we want him. Will we succeed on our own? I wouldn't be here I'd I didn't think we have a real chance. But if he could be persuaded to see the monstrosity the Hexarchate becomes..." She slants a shoulder in a delicate shrug.

"As far as getting him out without Flute's knowledge... That may be easier than you think. We botch the mission, and botch it badly. Disrupt their comms, break their plans, and execute our own. No, I'm more worried about the Kel."

[What do you mean, callous? Heh.

Reshad can be persuaded the other way, but she's very interested in kidnapping Jedao instead of killing him. It just hurts to throw away a weapon that good.

OOC I'm a big Jedao fan, but it's nice not to have to try too hard to justify it IC. ;) ]
Edited Date: 2019-01-19 03:51 am (UTC)
hoardingpearls: Reshad looks straight out. Four gears are behind her. A fox has taken the fifth. (Default)
From: [personal profile] hoardingpearls
"Hellspin fell out of the deck sideways, though. A real black swan, from everything I've read; took everyone by surprise." A bit of enthusiasm shows there, the hobbyist warming to her subject. "After a cometary arc of a career."

"Don't think of it as ...trying to make him not a monstrosity. He's one of history's finest." She looks thoughtful, mind racing ahead of speech. "Think of it as denying the Hexarchate a weapon - not by destruction, but by theft."
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From: [personal profile] kese_seyli
Seyli's been keeping their mouth shut through this whole exchange, trying to actually hear their crew mates out and get a good read on where they stand and what their skills are. But Sasha makes the most valid point they've heard.

"I agree with Sasha. Why do we think we could use him when no one else has managed to do so? I'm sure as hell not that special." They leave the and I doubt any of you are, either unspoken.
Edited Date: 2019-01-20 05:04 pm (UTC)
slybrarian: The Incomparable Leonardo de Montreal, Nightmare's Angel (Nightmare Scientist)
From: [personal profile] slybrarian
"Maybe using him is the wrong approach," Alaric says. "The heptarchate uses Jedao, and it ended up poorly. The also use moths, and while nothing's happened yet, traditionally enslaving strange creatures from beyond space and time doesn't go well either. So far working with a moth for mutual benefit seems to work pretty well though."
hoardingpearls: Reshad looks straight out. Four gears are behind her. A fox has taken the fifth. (Default)
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Reshad nods to Seyli and Sasha both, an acknowledgement of their points. They're good ones, but she hesitates to let that be the only reason to drive the decision.

"Assassinated or kidnapped, either way we deny the Hexarchate his ability. But to Alaric's point - alliance may be more potent yet. And make every plan with an eye to harm reduction." She glances back and forth between them. "Aren't we doing that already?"
Edited Date: 2019-01-22 07:54 pm (UTC)
slybrarian: The Incomparable Leonardo de Montreal, Nightmare's Angel (Nightmare Scientist)
From: [personal profile] slybrarian
"Yeah, it does seem like the sort of situation where you kidnap first and ask ideological questions second," Alaric agrees. "Or shoot him, whatever."
yhlee: Alto clef and whole note (middle C). (hxx clock)
From: [personal profile] yhlee
[GM's note on drugs: [personal profile] delight, I am happy to defer to whatever you know from real life or want to invent from Ione's experience here given that I have zero medical or pharmaceutical knowledge. [1] [personal profile] vass, Iawa would have general familiarity with Vidona drugs that make people more complaisant, or sedated, or induce mind-altering states; and God knows, you probably know a lot more about the real life version of this too because I know NOTHING about the real life version of this.

[1] My dad is a surgeon but surgeon's kids either (a) become super-knowledgeable about biology (my sister) or (b) outsource everything to the medical person in the family and end up super ignorant (me).

]
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[I tried to do research to figure out something more terrifying than the real drug available that does this, AND I COULDN'T THE REAL DRUG IS TERRIFYING ENOUGH TO FIT INTO THE H*ARCHATE SETTING AS IS.]
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Ione cannot put her finger on anything Sasha is missng, and she only squints and tries to look at her nose a little bit as regards that counting method. But she's getting used to the fact that this mission + numbers are going to be weird to her.

"Oh, sure," she says easily, trying not to look pleased or smile, because that would definitely be weird to everyone else. "In what format did you prefer? I have the powder, which can be powerful even when inhaled but if you put it through a ventilation system you'd have either a lot of problems or the most complacent group of people you've ever dealt with and they would be extremely annoying, but they would also probably all forget it happened -- er, anyway, I can also make it into a suspension and we can dart it. He might really hate us, though, there are a couple of side effects ..."

Because that is absolutely the only reason that Jedao would hate them as a result.

"If I have a couple of days and lab equipment and someone else to do calculations for me because that will be much faster, I can adjust the potency."
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From: [personal profile] kese_seyli
[[In character I think we are working on how Seyli feels about this all. They'd vote kill over kidnapping, though. Out of character, kidnapping sounds hilarious. As for splitting the party, Seyli almost has to go to the Lanterners to provide training, as they are the only hitter on the team?]]

on splitting the party

Date: 2019-01-18 04:18 pm (UTC)
yhlee: Alto clef and whole note (middle C). (hxx clock)
From: [personal profile] yhlee
[If splitting the party sounds dreary/unfun to RP, we can totes fast-forward the journey and take up again on the other end, at the conference. So that's definitely an option.]

Re: on splitting the party

Date: 2019-01-22 07:55 pm (UTC)
hoardingpearls: Reshad looks straight out. Four gears are behind her. A fox has taken the fifth. (Default)
From: [personal profile] hoardingpearls
[I'm happy either way. Reshad would probably be best placed with the Lanterners, so she can learn about them - and about how to foul them up.]

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