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[In the current move, Flute has just informed the team that they are to accompany a group of Lanterner assassins to a conference where the Lanterners will attempt to assassinate Jedao. This post is for reactions and plans, both in and out of character.]
Sasha's quiet as the group heads from the Catastrophe Axe back to the Cantata. She wants to have a cup of tea and spend a few hours working her way further into the Axe's grid, but work comes before play, and figuring out how to handle Flute's instructions will be a fuck of a lot of work.
Once everyone's safely on the Cantata and the lock has closed behind them, she starts issuing orders. "Grid, please ask Sulen to meet me in my office in twenty minutes, and inform everyone there will be a team meeting in the common room in one hour. Reshad, I'll want you in the meeting with Sulen."
She pulls her memory stick out of her pocket and gives it to Alaric. "Find Aymad, stick this in the minigrid--not in the main one--and see what you can find out about the watchers in Flute's system in the next hour."
Then she turns to Seyli. "I know you want to yell. Go ahead and do it. You've got twenty minutes." [These are heptarchate minutes, so it's more like ten minutes in our calendar.]
Sasha's quiet as the group heads from the Catastrophe Axe back to the Cantata. She wants to have a cup of tea and spend a few hours working her way further into the Axe's grid, but work comes before play, and figuring out how to handle Flute's instructions will be a fuck of a lot of work.
Once everyone's safely on the Cantata and the lock has closed behind them, she starts issuing orders. "Grid, please ask Sulen to meet me in my office in twenty minutes, and inform everyone there will be a team meeting in the common room in one hour. Reshad, I'll want you in the meeting with Sulen."
She pulls her memory stick out of her pocket and gives it to Alaric. "Find Aymad, stick this in the minigrid--not in the main one--and see what you can find out about the watchers in Flute's system in the next hour."
Then she turns to Seyli. "I know you want to yell. Go ahead and do it. You've got twenty minutes." [These are heptarchate minutes, so it's more like ten minutes in our calendar.]
no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-17 02:43 am (UTC)[I'm looking for both in-character and out-of-character feedback; for what it's worth, in character Sasha thinks the case for assassinating Jedao is pretty good, but out of character, I think kidnapping him seems like more fun, if we can pull it off.
Flute wanted some of the team to travel with the Lanterners and provide training. That means potentially splitting the party. I'm interested in people's thoughts on this as well: do you want your character to be assigned to the Lanterner ship, or to the Cantata? Or would you rather elide the entire question and pick up with the next move at our next destination?]
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-17 07:44 pm (UTC)[Sulen would rather assassinate key Vidona policymakers, but they've guessed the rebellion would rather destroy the heptarchate than reform it and aren't sure what to do about that. They're constitutionally incapable of arguing a position that they don't believe so can't pretend they don't think getting rid of Jedao is the moral decision.]
[OOC, I definitely want to kidnap him, although I'm not sure we're capable of it- but having him turn the tables on us also sounds fun! I'm okay with splitting the party although I'm not sure what we'd be doing on the Cantata while the trainers were interacting with the Lanterners.]
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 01:13 am (UTC)[Trying to capture Jedao seems fun and tricky, and trying to kill him also seems tricky. We did accidentally kidnap-slash-subvert one official, though!]
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 02:24 am (UTC)[Capturing Jedao without tipping off the rest of the rebellion that we did so seems like the really hard part!]
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 02:55 am (UTC)Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 03:37 am (UTC)Virmad is — possibly visibly; certainly visibly to Sulen — struggling to balance his personal feelings on this matter against his professional — ? when did he start thinking of himself as a professional rebel? — assessment of the situation as a member of the Rebellion.
“To address Alaric’s question,” Virmad interjects, “if the Heptarchate can be defeated, or at least held at bay, by a small client state — which, given the distance any additional forces would have to travel to get here if Jedao and his swarm are removed as factors, seems like a plausible outcome of an assassination — that could both leave it open to external challenges and exacerbate the internal contradictions that let heresies spread in the first place.” The part of him that still thinks like a magistrate is pleased with the phrase “internal contradictions”, borrowed from some borderline heretical Liozh political economist he read years ago.
“On a pragmatic note,” he continues, “I’m not sure I’m convinced that sending multiple assassins is more likely to succeed in the first place than one was. Granted, the Lanterners may not be the only assassins operating at this conference, although they’ll probably be the only ones targeting Jedao, but still — more assassins, especially more assassins with the same target, means more chances of drawing his attention. It’s also possible, as we discussed earlier” — he nods to Sasha — “that this is precisely Quill’s intention. Jedao won the war, if you can call it ‘winning’, while recovering from the effects of a botched shattergun assassination attempt. If they can draw his attention to the assassins and prevent that damage, who knows what he might accomplish while clear-minded? It was always speculated that his actions at Hellspin might have been connected with the aftereffects of the assassination attempt, although there was never any conclusive evidence either way, at least not in public. Even if Quill does want us to succeed, it may be a tactic to galvanize the Heptarchate into committing more forces to this conflict, which while logistically challenging wouldn’t be strictly impossible, and, depending on the aggressiveness of the response, might simply mean an even more efficient and total genocide of the Lanterners. I hope I speak for all of us when I say I wouldn’t want to see that.”
He stops for a moment to breathe and weigh his words before continuing.
“Shuos Jedao” — his heart is pounding in spite of himself — “is dangerous, no doubt. But he’s also an unknown and variable quantity, as my speculations about the implications of his death may have illustrated. I would say it’s between ‘difficult’ and ‘impossible’ to predict the political and calendrical implications of what we’re being asked to do. This assassination plan seems...” He searches for the right word. “...Ill-advised, especially when we don’t trust Quill’s motivations. But doing nothing will attract attention we don’t want from our ‘superiors’ and their other agents here. I wish we had a better sense of Jedao himself, beyond the historical record.” He gestures a little helplessly. “If there were a third way...”
[sorry for this WALL of text and also sorry for being so bad at posting! Virmad has a lot of thoughts and feelings and most of them are that he REALLY doesn't want them to kill Jedao (he wants to meet him, ideally!) but also doesn't want to totally compromise his position in Sasha and Sulen's eyes, so he doesn't feel that he can advocate strongly for anything other than "wait and observe" at the moment, unless someone else suggests something first.
for my part, out of character, I don't trust Quill, but the theory I REALLY WANT to believe is precisely that Hellspin is connected with the shattergun aftereffects, so Quill wants the assassination attempt to fail so that Jedao will still be alive and active when the Liozh heresy begins and can throw his support behind the Liozh. I'd be extremely down for a kidnapping. my biggest goal for this mission, I would say, is to have Virmad and Jedao meet in some capacity.
also yes I did mean to vaguely imply that there's a Liozh political economist who's halfway to inventing Marxism.]
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 04:39 am (UTC)"I had simply assumed someone wished to deprive the Heptarchate of this general's apparently legendary strategic abilities for the next..." They check their notes. "Four hundred years. "
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 04:23 pm (UTC)"I mean. Could we just. Pretend to kill him? And instead keep him for ourselves, at least until we think we actually need to kill him? I could certainly do fake lethal injection," a little wavy-wiggly hand gesture, "And actually have it be temporarily-arrests-life injection instead. Poison dart that isn't actually fatal sort of thing?"
[I like the kidnapping idea, but Ione is also in favor of kidnapping over assassinating because her training definitely tells her that if someone else wants to kill a guy, she wants to talk to the guy first! So for once my character and I agree.]
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 11:43 pm (UTC)Sasha looks at Ione. "I like the idea of not doing what Quill wants, but I don't see an easy way for us to extract a body, dead or otherwise. There's station personnel, Flute's people, the Lanterners, and the Kel, and I see no reason that any of those interest groups would let us retain a corpse."
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-19 03:49 am (UTC)"If Quill wanted to make things less stable in the future, she could do worse than to remove Hexarch Mikodez.
"That - and Jedao's legendary mind - incline me to think we want him. Will we succeed on our own? I wouldn't be here I'd I didn't think we have a real chance. But if he could be persuaded to see the monstrosity the Hexarchate becomes..." She slants a shoulder in a delicate shrug.
"As far as getting him out without Flute's knowledge... That may be easier than you think. We botch the mission, and botch it badly. Disrupt their comms, break their plans, and execute our own. No, I'm more worried about the Kel."
[What do you mean, callous? Heh.
Reshad can be persuaded the other way, but she's very interested in kidnapping Jedao instead of killing him. It just hurts to throw away a weapon that good.
OOC I'm a big Jedao fan, but it's nice not to have to try too hard to justify it IC. ;) ]
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-19 04:21 am (UTC)"But Jedao's a monstrosity himself, isn't he? He's about to murder his own army. I can see that he would be a valuable bargaining chip. But that's a massive risk for an uncertain payout." Sasha doesn't understand the urge to see Jedao as a potential idealist. There's no way he could be trusted, not with that record. Or future record.
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-19 05:41 am (UTC)"Don't think of it as ...trying to make him not a monstrosity. He's one of history's finest." She looks thoughtful, mind racing ahead of speech. "Think of it as denying the Hexarchate a weapon - not by destruction, but by theft."
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-20 03:48 am (UTC)Sasha leans forward. "I wouldn't steal one of the fungal weapons. Because a weapon's no good if you're not willing to use it, and using one of those would make us as bad as the heptarchate. Or the hexarchate, in that case. What makes Jedao different? Why in all the hells do we think we could use him safely?"
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-20 05:04 pm (UTC)"I agree with Sasha. Why do we think we could use him when no one else has managed to do so? I'm sure as hell not that special." They leave the and I doubt any of you are, either unspoken.
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-22 02:52 am (UTC)Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-22 07:54 pm (UTC)"Assassinated or kidnapped, either way we deny the Hexarchate his ability. But to Alaric's point - alliance may be more potent yet. And make every plan with an eye to harm reduction." She glances back and forth between them. "Aren't we doing that already?"
Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-27 09:46 pm (UTC)Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-28 01:55 am (UTC)some possible courses of action - paging everyone, especially Iawa and Ione
Date: 2019-01-28 03:44 am (UTC)mind-altering/sedating drugs - paging Iawa and Ione
Date: 2019-01-28 03:50 am (UTC)[1] My dad is a surgeon but surgeon's kids either (a) become super-knowledgeable about biology (my sister) or (b) outsource everything to the medical person in the family and end up super ignorant (me).
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Re: mind-altering/sedating drugs - paging Iawa and Ione
Date: 2019-01-28 04:30 pm (UTC)Re: some possible courses of action - paging everyone, especially Iawa and Ione
Date: 2019-01-28 04:37 pm (UTC)"Oh, sure," she says easily, trying not to look pleased or smile, because that would definitely be weird to everyone else. "In what format did you prefer? I have the powder, which can be powerful even when inhaled but if you put it through a ventilation system you'd have either a lot of problems or the most complacent group of people you've ever dealt with and they would be extremely annoying, but they would also probably all forget it happened -- er, anyway, I can also make it into a suspension and we can dart it. He might really hate us, though, there are a couple of side effects ..."
Because that is absolutely the only reason that Jedao would hate them as a result.
"If I have a couple of days and lab equipment and someone else to do calculations for me because that will be much faster, I can adjust the potency."
Re: some possible courses of action - paging everyone, especially Iawa and Ione
From:in the future, we will have more data
From:Re: no, seriously, are we going to assassinate Jedao? - paging everyone
Date: 2019-01-18 03:51 pm (UTC)on splitting the party
Date: 2019-01-18 04:18 pm (UTC)Re: on splitting the party
Date: 2019-01-22 07:55 pm (UTC)