I just finished Fifty Shades of Grey book 1. I was wondering if there are any fics along the lines of Shades for my boys Brian and Justin. If so please share.
If I had known this request would have cause all this I would have just tried another way. Book 1 of Shades was given to me and after reading it I was wondering if there were any good B/J fics with the same theme. I will choose my words differently when asking for something in this comm.
I think there's just an instant trigger for most people when 50 Shades is mentioned for a variety of reasons. Though, I think you've been linked to fics in this fandom that are BDSM related.
I've had my own problems lately with 50 Shades because of RL friends, who picked it up simply because it was on the 'best sellers' list. Since then I had to correct many misconceptions they formed since reading the book about BDSM in general and what is considered the 'norm'. I haven't read the series, only various passages here and there so it's been rather frustrating that to me, it was hiding a controlling abusive relationship under the guise of BDSM. As rinmonsterer notes above that it pushes the idea that regardless of your partner's feelings on a particular subject if you do it anyways, everything will be A-OK.
I'm sorry that you got the response you did, we are a vocal group here and it happens from time to time. At least you did get recs in the end in the midst of all of it? (Not that it makes it any better for being stuck in the middle of all of this, mind you.)
I had no idea what this book was when a friend asked me to read it for my thoughts on it. I was just shocked by the comments when I came back here. I didn't realize this was a trilogy until yesterday while walking through Target. So when I came back it was like a full on attack for something I was not aware of.
I have the same feelings about this book as I do about fic, if you don't like it don't read it. I have made my decision as far as the Shades books and wish the author luck, it's just not for me for various reasons.
Thank you for clearing things up. Yes, I had glanced and read some BDSM, I was actually trying to find some good true to the lifestyle fics.
Honey, you did NOTHING WRONG. This book is a topic that is bound to blow up wherever it's mentioned. I stated my opinion on it, because I can't NOT do it. But believe me when I say it was not geared towards you. In fact, I don't think any comment was. It's a universal knee-jerk reaction to the book.
Please come back anytime and ask for whatever you want. One thing is certain, everyone will have an opinion, good or bad. And a rec, usually. lol If you feel personally attacked at any time, please don't hesitate to PM me, Court or Dot.
Thanks so much. It was like a bomb went off when I came back. I think I was overwhelmed by the comments because I thought the book was just a nip up from Harlequin romance novel of yester-year.
You know another thing that occured to me a few minutes ago when clearing out tabs is checking out the BDSM section at Midnight Whispers. I haven't read some of those fics listed (There's a new one that's sort of like Beauty and the Beast?), so I can't really vote how great some of them are vs. others. (As far as being true to the lifestyle.)
However, that's probably another area that hasn't been recommended before? I wonder if the other website (True Queer Love I believe) has a similar search feature? Maybe AO3?
You know, this thread just made me realize something...
The Vatican condoned the Harry freaking Potter series for reasons only known to them yet they are mum on this book/author? Why? They hate women! They looooooved these series!
There...just had to get that off my chest. LOL.
I am off to throw a week old muffin in the direction of Italy. Amen.
No need to be sorry, hon, and I truly hope you did not feel attacked in any way! People have a lot of feelings about those books, and a discussion was sparked, which I think is good :) Although all the replies (not containing recs) were probably a bit annoying for you, lol. There was nothing wrong with your request. If you were looking for fics truer to the bdsm lifestyle, that's especially awesome, and I hope somewhere in all this we helped you find some.
I just wanted to say that from my own view point you did absolutly nothing wrong or for that matter written anything wrong and there is pretty much nothing to apologize for. When I saw your post I was like 'hmmmm, whats that' since I love to read pretty much anything (except cheese graters in action) and have never heard of this book(book series) so anyways this doesn't mean I don't read BDSM...if it's good writing and researched and has Brian and Justin's consent I am all for it. There are quite few fics with just a few BDSM scenes that are in my opinion just YUUUUUUM but since I have a memory of a freaking gold fish on crack I can't provide you the links, titles or authors besides the ones I mentioned above.
I can assure you that if you find any of my 'disability to shut my cakehole' ie comments above or this particular one disrespectful or aimed at you personally let me know and I will take them down.
On another note, I can personally say that this is a great community despite the occasional rants that go on but are usually funny as hell and respectful (except that one time when I managed to insult quite a few people in one of my posts and yet they still speak to me...I am awed and humbled. LOL at myself). I especially enjoy the effort people make in this community to take time to rec, share opinions, provide summaries, warnings and discuss pretty much anything under the sun. Hell, getithere is most likey my second best friend. ROFL.
Reading a few bits of 50 shades I was off put mainly because of 'second-hand' life experiences concerning domestic abuse and thus it didn't sit well with me since there is a very thin line between 'abuse' and 'let's explore limits in the bedroom' in fiction and/or life. In BDSM, usually, one partner is aroused by the pleasure, trust, secure vunerability (main components of love if you will) that he/she sees and gets from the other partner and vice versa and not from a total power slash utter satisfaction of one partner at the humiliation of the other which he/she may not enjoy at all. The dynamics are supposed to go both ways. When it's about total power (in my opnion), it's rape and a deep psychological issue of the character/s in the fictional work and/or a badly researched BDSM dynamic.
Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-03 03:23 pm (UTC)Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-03 03:57 pm (UTC)I've had my own problems lately with 50 Shades because of RL friends, who picked it up simply because it was on the 'best sellers' list. Since then I had to correct many misconceptions they formed since reading the book about BDSM in general and what is considered the 'norm'. I haven't read the series, only various passages here and there so it's been rather frustrating that to me, it was hiding a controlling abusive relationship under the guise of BDSM. As
I'm sorry that you got the response you did, we are a vocal group here and it happens from time to time. At least you did get recs in the end in the midst of all of it? (Not that it makes it any better for being stuck in the middle of all of this, mind you.)
Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-03 04:52 pm (UTC)I have the same feelings about this book as I do about fic, if you don't like it don't read it. I have made my decision as far as the Shades books and wish the author luck, it's just not for me for various reasons.
Thank you for clearing things up. Yes, I had glanced and read some BDSM, I was actually trying to find some good true to the lifestyle fics.
Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-04 12:46 am (UTC)Please come back anytime and ask for whatever you want. One thing is certain, everyone will have an opinion, good or bad. And a rec, usually. lol If you feel personally attacked at any time, please don't hesitate to PM me, Court or Dot.
Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-04 11:23 pm (UTC)Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-04 01:46 am (UTC)However, that's probably another area that hasn't been recommended before? I wonder if the other website (True Queer Love I believe) has a similar search feature? Maybe AO3?
Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-04 07:35 pm (UTC)The Vatican condoned the Harry freaking Potter series for reasons only known to them yet they are mum on this book/author? Why? They hate women! They looooooved these series!
There...just had to get that off my chest. LOL.
I am off to throw a week old muffin in the direction of Italy. Amen.
lols away...
Cheers,
Lee
Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-03 11:30 pm (UTC)Re: Sorry...
Date: 2012-06-04 07:09 pm (UTC)I just wanted to say that from my own view point you did absolutly nothing wrong or for that matter written anything wrong and there is pretty much nothing to apologize for. When I saw your post I was like 'hmmmm, whats that' since I love to read pretty much anything (except cheese graters in action) and have never heard of this book(book series) so anyways this doesn't mean I don't read BDSM...if it's good writing and researched and has Brian and Justin's consent I am all for it. There are quite few fics with just a few BDSM scenes that are in my opinion just YUUUUUUM but since I have a memory of a freaking gold fish on crack I can't provide you the links, titles or authors besides the ones I mentioned above.
I can assure you that if you find any of my 'disability to shut my cakehole' ie comments above or this particular one disrespectful or aimed at you personally let me know and I will take them down.
On another note, I can personally say that this is a great community despite the occasional rants that go on but are usually funny as hell and respectful (except that one time when I managed to insult quite a few people in one of my posts and yet they still speak to me...I am awed and humbled. LOL at myself). I especially enjoy the effort people make in this community to take time to rec, share opinions, provide summaries, warnings and discuss pretty much anything under the sun. Hell, getithere is most likey my second best friend. ROFL.
Reading a few bits of 50 shades I was off put mainly because of 'second-hand' life experiences concerning domestic abuse and thus it didn't sit well with me since there is a very thin line between 'abuse' and 'let's explore limits in the bedroom' in fiction and/or life. In BDSM, usually, one partner is aroused by the pleasure, trust, secure vunerability (main components of love if you will) that he/she sees and gets from the other partner and vice versa and not from a total power slash utter satisfaction of one partner at the humiliation of the other which he/she may not enjoy at all. The dynamics are supposed to go both ways. When it's about total power (in my opnion), it's rape and a deep psychological issue of the character/s in the fictional work and/or a badly researched BDSM dynamic.
All the best,
Lee