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Username: nowrunalong
Preferred Genres: comedy, rom-com, drama, fantasy/sci-fi, slice of life, mystery/detective, procedural
DNW Genres: violent/gory horror
Preferred Media Types: live action TV, movies, cartoons, comics, graphic novels
DNW Media Types: video games that take more than ~20 hours to play
General Likes: nuanced/morally grey female characters, women being heroes, women being villains, female friendships, romance of any gender configuration, slow burn, found families, comedy, feel-good stories, drama/conflict driven by characters, symbolism, outfits/costume design being a major part of the visual look of the series
General DNWs: torture porn, primary focus on abuse/rape stories, relentless angst/suspense/darkness
Fandom Preferences: femslash shipping potential!
Requests for Content Warnings: please warn for graphic violence, rape/non-con, child abuse, and death of bi/lesbian women
Examples of Media Enjoyed: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel & Faith comics, Lucifer TV, DC Extended Universe, Superman: the Animated Series (and the rest of the DCAU), Doctor Who, The Mandalorian, Lost Girl, Carmilla, She-Ra 2018, Legend of Korra, Scott Pilgrim (movie & graphic novels), Person of Interest, Elementary, Castle, The Mentalist, The Good Wife, Schitt's Creek, New Girl, Forever 2018, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Bob's Burgers, Much Ado About Nothing (every version I've seen!), The Raven Cycle, Tales From the Borderlands. If you want to see what movies I've watched, I have a list on letterboxd!
Examples of Media to Avoid: Torchwood/Class, extreme cringe humour like Curb Your Enthusiasm and the Office UK, fandom juggernauts like MCU (exception for Star Trek, feel free to rec individual shows!), soap-opera-type dramas (like Grey's Anatomy or Jane the Virgin), and the following sitcoms because I've already seen them: The Office, Parks and Rec, B99, Community, Seinfeld, Friends, One Day at a Time, Never Have I Ever, Scrubs, Silicon Valley, The Good Place.
Streaming Services I Can Access: Netflix, DC Universe, Amazon Prime, Disney+
Languages I'm Comfortable With: English, French, potentially other languages with accessible English subtitles
Preferred Genres: comedy, rom-com, drama, fantasy/sci-fi, slice of life, mystery/detective, procedural
DNW Genres: violent/gory horror
Preferred Media Types: live action TV, movies, cartoons, comics, graphic novels
DNW Media Types: video games that take more than ~20 hours to play
General Likes: nuanced/morally grey female characters, women being heroes, women being villains, female friendships, romance of any gender configuration, slow burn, found families, comedy, feel-good stories, drama/conflict driven by characters, symbolism, outfits/costume design being a major part of the visual look of the series
General DNWs: torture porn, primary focus on abuse/rape stories, relentless angst/suspense/darkness
Fandom Preferences: femslash shipping potential!
Requests for Content Warnings: please warn for graphic violence, rape/non-con, child abuse, and death of bi/lesbian women
Examples of Media Enjoyed: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel & Faith comics, Lucifer TV, DC Extended Universe, Superman: the Animated Series (and the rest of the DCAU), Doctor Who, The Mandalorian, Lost Girl, Carmilla, She-Ra 2018, Legend of Korra, Scott Pilgrim (movie & graphic novels), Person of Interest, Elementary, Castle, The Mentalist, The Good Wife, Schitt's Creek, New Girl, Forever 2018, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Bob's Burgers, Much Ado About Nothing (every version I've seen!), The Raven Cycle, Tales From the Borderlands. If you want to see what movies I've watched, I have a list on letterboxd!
Examples of Media to Avoid: Torchwood/Class, extreme cringe humour like Curb Your Enthusiasm and the Office UK, fandom juggernauts like MCU (exception for Star Trek, feel free to rec individual shows!), soap-opera-type dramas (like Grey's Anatomy or Jane the Virgin), and the following sitcoms because I've already seen them: The Office, Parks and Rec, B99, Community, Seinfeld, Friends, One Day at a Time, Never Have I Ever, Scrubs, Silicon Valley, The Good Place.
Streaming Services I Can Access: Netflix, DC Universe, Amazon Prime, Disney+
Languages I'm Comfortable With: English, French, potentially other languages with accessible English subtitles
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Date: 2020-12-21 09:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-12-22 02:17 am (UTC)Two suggestions:
Gargoyles
Animated series, two seasons (technically there was a short third season, but almost no one including series creator Greg Weisman counts it as canonical). Available on Disney+.
This was a Disney animated series that originally ran in the same block with Darkwing Duck, but it looks and flows like something completely different. The roots of the drama are grounded in 10th and 11th century Scotland, and the first half of the series spends a fair amount of time showing us those roots, but the main action occurs in a 1990s Manhattan that's just a bit ahead of its time (mostly standard comics-grade high tech).
It's very much an ensemble affair. Our heroes are five living gargoyles (stone by day, patrolling the skies by night) led by Goliath, plus police detective Elisa Maza. There are two lead adversaries: Demona, a renegade gargoyle, and billionaire David Xanatos - and I say adversaries deliberately, because neither character is a one-note villain. Both are fascinating, complicated characters who are drawn with impressive nuance as the series develops. This core cast is augmented by a sizeable supporting ensemble as the show evolves, most notably Macbeth (yes, literally the one from Shakespeare), Thailog (an illicit clone of Goliath, who's arguably more dangerous than Xanatos and Demona combined), and a host of faerie folk right up to Oberon and Titania.
That description sounds like a recipe for a train wreck, but trust me: the writing is focused and carefully structured throughout. So besides being an action/adventure show that's stylistically not far off of the original Timmvere Batman, it's also a Scottish history primer (yes, really!), a family drama (some of Elisa's relatives are drawn in; Xanatos gets married!, younger gargoyles turn up), and a literal world tour of comparative mythology, with bonus Arthurian bits. Also, the voice cast is stellar, with several main characters and secondary roles played by alumni of Star Trek:TNG.
I'd say that the series hits almost all of your "general likes" buttons, particularly those for nuanced female characters whether heroic or otherwise. The one thing it's a little short on is femslash potential - there are some prospects among the secondary players, and maybe Fox (you'll see), but not many.
One storyline, involving "mutates", might bump up against your triggers/DNWs; the premise is that an evil scientist is injecting humans with animal DNA to create hybrids (i.e. noncon; the subjects are not consulted beforehand). A female character in the relevant episode is especially traumatized, reacting in a way that might indicate prior abuse. This is dealt with in the course of the arc (about two episodes, very early in Season 2), and thereafter, the mutates appear chiefly as background players.
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Narbonic
Webcomic, created by Shaenon Garrity; 2000-2006 (complete).
Take one mad scientist, one evil intern, one newly hired computer geek, one super-intelligent gerbil, and the scientist's "mother". Add high explosives, a forensic linguist, several rival mad scientists, the Legion of Daves, a visiting demon, and assorted mutated animals of various species and sizes. Mix well; publish four panels a day (more on Sunday) for six years.
That's Narbonic in a nutshell. Our heroine is Dr. Helen B. (for Beta) Narbon, head of Narbonics Labs. Mell (for Melody Wildflower) Kelly, Helen B's intern, is just out of college, cute as heck, and really enjoys weapons of massive destruction. Dave Davenport either chain-smokes or doesn't (depending on whether the time travel arc has happened yet) and serves as perpetual guinea pig for a great variety of experiments. Artie is the gerbil, given super-intellect by Helen in an early experiment - unlike the rest of the cast, he's (a) sane, and (b) explicitly not evil. (No one is entirely sure why he continues to live in the lab; possibly he's trying to head off assorted schemes for world domination.)
Six days a week, this is an old-school newspaper-style panel comic strip - like Peanuts in its heyday, sometimes doing single-panel comedy but often featuring ongoing storylines. Essentially, on one level it's a pure workplace sitcom much like many of those on your "list of things I've watched", except that it happens in an Evil Mad Science Lab™.
At the same time (and especially on Sundays) there are genuine character arcs unfolding under the surface, slowly circling upward as the run of the comic moves forward. But unlike, say, the writers of Castle (don't get me started), Garrity knows exactly what she's doing at every step, and anything that may look like a random digression is almost certain to pay off eventually.
What makes all this stand out from every other mad scientist riff in the multiverse is that above all, the strip is funny, and while it takes its characters seriously, it never loses sight of the idea that mad science should be FUN. Even when there's angst in one of the story arcs, it's angst with a sense of FUN lurking underneath it. You wouldn't want an actual Helen Narbon in your living room, because the eventual cleanup would be epic. But reading Helen's adventures is one of the most reliable smile-generators I know of on the 'Net.
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Date: 2021-01-06 05:42 am (UTC)Re: Gargoyles, I am very intrigued by this cast of characters - especially as an artist, because the character designs seem very fun to draw. :D I love the sounds of this! It seems like it hits on a lot of things I enjoyed about the Timmverse DC shows (and you're right, it's very visually reminiscent of the Batman animated series, heck yes!) - it's making me think about the Justice League show in particular because... ensemble cast in which more characters keep cropping up, but also there are actual story arcs, and character development! (...JL is also one of those shows with limited f/f shipping potential, but I make it work anyway. They don't even have to meet for me to ship them! They need only exist! xD)
I appreciate the heads-up about the noncon experimentation! That should be fine, especially going into it with foreknowledge.
Re: Narbonic, I'm very excited to get a comic rec! I'm actually an aspiring comic artist myself, but I've read shamefully few comics other than uh... Archie, Calvin & Hobbes, a few DC titles, and bits of pieces of other things (I do love me some Hark! A Vagrant).
You wouldn't want an actual Helen Narbon in your living room, because the eventual cleanup would be epic. But reading Helen's adventures is one of the most reliable smile-generators I know of on the 'Net.
I applaud your sales pitch! You've certainly convinced me to give it a try. The best thing about comics in this format is that it's easy to only bite off small chunks at once, which certainly makes it easier to dive right into. I'm loving the note about deliberate foreshadowing, too - that spine-tingling feeling when canon calls back to something you hadn't even realized would be important... :'D
Thank you so much for suggesting these! I look forward to investigating them further!
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Date: 2021-01-07 05:25 am (UTC)When the Bat in the Moonlight Flies is a brief crossover, in which we find Jenny Calendar from the Buffyverse working tech support in Manhattan just as the gargoyles are waking up 100-odd stories directly overhead. Your tourguide is Owen Burnett, right-hand man to David Xanatos - but is he a mild-mannered teddy bear or a shark in Armani clothing? Opinions differ....
And I Do Mean Yours jumps a bit farther back in time, looking in on Owen and Xanatos early in their relationship as they work out the best way to profit from an unusual semi-Shakespearean forgery.
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Date: 2021-01-14 04:36 am (UTC)Thank you again for the recs!
Reccing Babylon 5
Date: 2020-12-22 04:50 am (UTC)This is a sadly underrated sci-fi masterpiece. J. Michael Straczynski planned out the entire 5 seasons and then shopped it around the studios, asking for a deal for all 5, right up front. Paramount turned it down (then created their own sci-fi drama set on a remote space station (DS9)... and yes, there was a law suit, and a settlement of an undisclosed sum.) but Warner Bros picked it up and ran with it.
I tell you this so you understand that it was created as a 5 season epic. Each season had its own arc, but you get some awesome breadcrumbs dropped in earlier seasons that suddenly slap you in the face when you get to the right point in later seasons, because Straczynski had A PLAN, and he knows how to use foreshadowing like a pro. Cos he is one.
Season 1 is a bit clunky, because there is a LOT of exposition; worldbuilding; history; religious, racial and political chicanery to lay out, and the effects, while award-winning in their time, are...dated. But omg, the ships! It is definitely worth pushing through tho, because once the exposition is out of the way, and you know who's who and what's what (or think you do), you can lose yourself in it completely.
There is a canonical f/f relationship and at least one of them is bi, but I honestly can't remember about the other. Considering when it was made, the relationship surprisingly does not end in the usual inevitable death, but, fair warning, the relationship does end messily, though through no real fault of either of them. There are also several other strong female chars that could be shippable (several morally grey), as well as a m/m friendship between aliens of different races that is so full of love I was shipping them years before I knew what shipping was.
At various times, it dips an appendage or two into each of your preferred genres, without stepping into your DNWs. It also nails pretty much all of your general likes while, again, generally avoiding your DNWs.
There are some non-graphic references to child abuse that relates to an organisation which removes young children from their families if they exhibit certain abilities, so that they can be raised and trained to use their 'gifts' for the good of...whoever is currently pulling the political strings. And while there is no (to my recollection) physical rape/non-con, there are instances of non-con mental interference. Telepathy used as a weapon, that kind of thing.
Annoyingly, I have not been able to find where you can stream it right now. I bought the entire universe - 5 seasons + several TV movies + a spinoff 1 season show - in a box set for myself for xmyth back in 2006. It was 8 years after the end of the show (which I watched on tv in its original screening as an adult, yes, I am *that* old), and several years since the last TV movie came out, so, of course, almost as soon as I unwrapped it, another movie was announced. *head desk* So I now have a box set universe with an extra dvd case sitting on top.
If you can find a source to watch this, please, please do so. It really does look like it hits a lot of your hot buttons, right down to the costume/outfit design specs. Multiple alien species makes for some stunning looks! And again, I say, OMG, THE SHIPS!
Release order - should be followed on first viewing
1. Babylon 5: The Gathering (22nd Feb 1993)
2. Babylon 5: Season 1-4 (26th Jan 1994-27th Oct 1997)
3. In The Beginning (film, 4th Jan 1998)
4. Babylon 5: Season 5 (21st Jan 1998)
5. Thirdspace* (film, 19th Jul 1998)
6. The River of Souls (film, 8th Nov 1998)
7. A Call to Arms (film, 3rd Jan 1999)
8. Crusade: Season 1 (9th Jun 1999)
9. The Legend of the Rangers (film, 19th Jan 2002)
10. The Lost Tales: Voices in the Dark (31st Jul 2007)
Choronological order - for future rewatches, to shake things up a little *g*
1. In The Beginning* (film, year: 2245-48) (Could be viewed at the beginning, or at the end, or both!)
2. Babylon 5: The Gathering (year 2257)
3. Babylon 5: Seasons 1-4 (year: 2258-61)
4. Thirdspace (film, year: 2261)
5. Babylon 5: Season 5 (year: 2262)
6. The River of Souls (film, year: 2263)
7. The Legend of the Rangers (film, year: 2265)
8. A Call to Arms (film, year: 2266)
9. Crusade: Season 1 (year: 2267)
10. The Lost Tales: Voices in the Dark (year: 2271)
There is a fandom wiki with over 3000 pages, that is still being maintained and updated. There's also an overview of the universe at Wiki. Beware spoilers in both!
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Date: 2021-01-06 06:13 am (UTC)I love that you've pitched this the way you did, because a carefully crafted narrative with expertly-employed foreshadowing is something that absolutely love. I had no idea it was written in this manner - you have my attention! :D
There is a canonical f/f relationship and at least one of them is bi, but I honestly can't remember about the other. Considering when it was made, the relationship surprisingly does not end in the usual inevitable death, but, fair warning, the relationship does end messily, though through no real fault of either of them.
Canon f/f that doesn't die! In the 90s? Yay!! I often quite enjoy relationships ending messily if it's not a black-and-white "character B sucks; character A deserves better" narrative, so this is fortunately more intriguing than off-putting for me as well. :D
I'm glad for your notes about the exposition in season 1! That is the type of thing that can put me off if I'm starting a canon blindly and have no reason to believe it will become less clunky-feeling - knowing that the characters are worth it is all I need to hear to make me want to see it through!
If you can find a source to watch this, please, please do so. It really does look like it hits a lot of your hot buttons, right down to the costume/outfit design specs. Multiple alien species makes for some stunning looks! And again, I say, OMG, THE SHIPS!
I also don't see it streaming anywhere, but I did just locate another source. I've been meaning to watch DS9, but I might just have to give Babylon 5 a shot first, now. Thank you so much for this rec, and for the release & chronological viewing orders, too! This is so helpful. I really appreciate it!!
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Date: 2020-12-22 09:44 am (UTC)You don't mention musicals either way that I can spot, but for a morally grey female character, Evita would have to be up there. I think it is still the only movie I've ever seen in the cinema twice.
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Date: 2021-01-06 04:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-12-22 04:38 pm (UTC)I would consider costume design/outfits important visually, as Carmen’s iconic red hat/coat is a focus, and due to the travel/heist genre her team often wears very eye-catching disguises (in addition to everyone having their own signature look). I personally love the art and animation style, as it has a lot of stunning color, lighting, and environments.
While I haven’t poked into the fandom myself, I can tell you that f/f is the biggest category on Ao3, and there’s definitely some delicious potential/subtext for multiple femslash ships!
Content warnings: Carmen’s backstory, as laid out in the first couple of episodes, involves a lot of manipulation/gas lighting from the adults who raised her as a child (who are present day antagonists).
I hope you enjoy it if you try it out, or manage to find something else you like.
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Date: 2021-01-06 04:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-12-22 11:33 pm (UTC)My Next Life As A Villainess's main character is a Katarina Claes, a spoiled young noble girl-- until she hits her head, and remembers her past life an ill-fated and short-lived Japanese teen, who's favourite visual novel featured Katarina Claes as a villain. A villain, who died or was exiled in every route. Not wanting to die young again or get exiled, Katarina does her best to befriend all the potential love interests and rivals so that they will not want to kill her or exile her. And she does too well, because now they all have crushes on her and not the character who's meant to be the main character, but she does not realise. Because while Katarina is a great friend, she is not a smart cookie. And thus, harem comedy ensues.
The comedy is hilarious and mostly quite sweet. It was a show I had to keep pausing because I was laughing too hard and was going to miss the next line.
It also has a lot of femslash shipping potential. The main cast/harem, if you count Katarina, is 50% female characters, and the female love interests get plenty of shippy moments with Katarina.
Some of the main characters have child abuse and bullying in their backstories, and it does sometimes show up on screen, but it is usually fairly brief.
The subbed version is available for free with ads on Crunchyroll.
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Date: 2021-01-06 04:47 am (UTC)The comedy is hilarious and mostly quite sweet. It was a show I had to keep pausing because I was laughing too hard and was going to miss the next line.
(This is the very best feeling. ;o;)
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Date: 2020-12-23 01:13 pm (UTC)Comedy Movies:
Due Date - Peter Highman must reach Los Angeles to make it in time for his child's birth. However, he is forced to travel with Ethan, an aspiring actor who frequently lands him in trouble. It's a fun road trip.
The Pacifier (Vin Diesel) - A Navy SEAL unused to children/teens has to protect the family of a scientist lost during a rescue that went wrong. Lots of fun shenanigans.
Scooby Doo movie - Live action movie with the guys all meeting up again after several years apart to solve a mystery on an island.
Snow Dogs - an adopted Miami dentist ends up in Alaska after his birth mother names him in her will. It's more slapstick comedy but still fun, and with great scenes and a love story.
Drama Movies:
The Fugitive (movie with Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones) - Dr Kimble is found guilty of murdering his wife and is sentenced to death. He escapes and tries to prove his innocence while being hunted by the US Marshals. Lots of drama and action, and a satisfying ending.
The Guardian (Kevin Costner) is about rescue swimmers, who save people in trouble at sea. Ben is asked to train the next set of recruits and later go out on rescues with those that make it through the punishing program.
Hours - about a man trying to keep his premature newborn alive during Hurricane Katrina after the hospital is abandoned, contending with failing power and looters.
K2 (with Michael Biehn) - about two friends who get the chance to ascend to the summit of K2. They have to contend with bad weather, the cold, crevasses, altitude sickness. It's based on character development and has great climbing sequences and beautiful scenery.
Silver Wolf (Michael Biehn) about a boy who goes to stay with his Forest Ranger uncle after his dad is killed in a freak skiing accident. He befriends a wolf, and drama ensues.
Unstoppable - about a runaway train based on a real event. Really good for drama and the last half hour is edge of your seat, with a wonderful ending.
Fantasy/sci-fi Movies:
2001 A Space Odyssey and it's sequel, 2010 The Year We Make Contact - these are quite old movies, and 2001 is a little surreal but the second movie makes sense of it. Both are set in space, heading towards an anomaly just beyond one of the outer planets at a time when the Earth is in political turmoil and on the brink of world war due to population explosion.
The Abyss (I'd recommedn the Special Edition) - about an undersea drilling platform that encounters an alien lifeform in the Abyss below them. A Navy SEAL team arrives to locate a downed nuclear sub but the leader is showing signs of depth sickness, making him unstable.
Apollo 13 (with Tom Hanks) - the movie is a fairly accurate account of the disaster that befell Apollo 13 and all the work that went into bringing the astronauts home safely.
Enemy Mine - humans and the Drac are at war and two fighter pilots from each side crashland on an alien planet. The story is how they go from being enemies to friends and how that friendship eventually brings an end to the war. Based on a book called Manifest Destiny.
Jumanji and Zathura - very similar and both good movies about kids who find a mechanical like board game and start to play, only to find the each move has consequences, and the only way to save themselves is to finish the game. Jumanji was set in the jungle and has a couple of great sequels. Zathura was set in space.
The Martian is well worth watching about a mission to Mars where one man gets left behind and is believed dead until he finally makes contact. It's about how he survives and how the world comes together to rescue him. It has drama and comedy and tense moments.
TV:
Boston Legal is a clever and often funny court drama show about a Legal Firm and the cases they handle. The main character is ALan Shore who uses sometimes unethical means to win civil rights cases alongside his mentor, Denny Crane, who is in the mid stages of dementia.
Eureka is another fun show about an average sheriff living in a zany town filled with mad genius scientists. It's all about the problems he faces while trying to save the town from themselves. It is a mixture of comedy and some drama
Warehouse 13 is similar to The Librarians (also a great TV show) about finding magical objects before they can become problematic. It shares the same universe as Eureka with at least one crossover in later seasons of Eureka. All the magical objects are stored away in a huge warehouse, whereas in The Librarians they are stored in a huge Library :) Both of these shows have great comedy and drama, and the magical element makes it intriguing and fun to watch.
Death In Paradise is a UK detective show set on a tropical island. It starts with a 'fish out of water' UK detective coming to investigate the death of the previous Inspector and then being forced to stay on. It has lots of interesting cases. Other detectives replace the first one over the seasons but all add their own unique quirkiness to the cases.
Shetland is another UK detective show set in Scotland on the Shetland islands. It's about a police officer/detective who has to keep the peace and solve cases while dealing with his personal problems. The scenery is beautiful.
A Gifted Man is about a doctor who helps out at a free clinic after being asked by the ghost of his ex-wife, who in life was an idealistic doctor who worked with those who couldn't afford medical care. It's how this impacts on him and the people around him. It was only one season but had some great episodes.
Haven is about a town under a centuries old curse and delves into the various curses and how it all came about. It starts with the arrival of an FBI agent who looks identical to a woman who comes back to the town every 27 years when the curse (Troubles) begin again. It has love, friendship, drama, supernatural elements, and an intriguing back story.
Terra Nova is about a family trying to make a new life away from an overpopulated Earth by 'escaping' through a manmade rift inot a prehistoric world to join a group of colonists. It's about how they are building a new future while being hampered by those in the old Earth who want to stripmine this new world of its resources.
Most are on Amazon Prime at the moment, as far as I am aware.
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Date: 2021-01-06 05:08 am (UTC)Of this whole pile, I've only seen Death in Paradise (loved it! although I never did finish it!) and the Scooby-Doo movie. I've had WH13 and Haven recced to me before... I should really get around to those, I'm almost positive I'd enjoy them.
I'd never heard of Eureka before now - adding that and The Librarians to my list as well! Such fun premises. :D (If you happen to have any additional thoughts on this, if I were to pick between WH13, Eureka, and The Librarians to start with, which might you nudge me toward? I know that WH13 has a popular f/f ship, but I know nothing of the other two fandoms.)
I very much appreciate you giving me a little synopsis of each title here. Thank you for the recommendations!
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Date: 2021-01-06 04:11 pm (UTC)Eureka is different to other two in that it is SCIENCE rather than MAGIC even though Eureka shares the same canon universe as WH13. I love all the science in the episodes and how the problems are resolved. Plus I am a huge Jack/Nathan fan so that makes me biased :)
All three shows have strong female characters but WH13 showcases it best, I think!
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Date: 2021-01-14 04:01 am (UTC)